Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it

• Using Moses Onda as a base for trying it
  Posted by james on 31 Jul, 2020 10:33
• Hi!
  
  I have a Moses Onda 633/483/91 that I use for kiting. I’d like to try wing foiling but I don’t want to spend a lot of money or acquire too much gear in case I don’t like it and need to sell it. I live in a small apartment too, so the less stuff the better.
  
  I’m thinking of just buying the Moses 1100 front wing, and a cheap board and maybe an Ozone Wasp 5m.
  
  I know the 91 mast is not the stiffest, but would it be okay for learning? I’m not a good kite foiler, still working on gybes.
  
  Thanks!
  James
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• #1 Reply
  Posted by deja vu on 12 Aug, 2020 19:13
• Here's the Onda in action with the 1100 wing.  It shouldn't take you long to surpass B. Muller!
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzIdyb4UUDI&t=11s
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• #2 Reply
  Posted by gmb13 on 13 Aug, 2020 11:08
• Quote from: james on 31 Jul, 2020 10:33

  Hi!
  
  I have a Moses Onda 633/483/91 that I use for kiting. I’d like to try wing foiling but I don’t want to spend a lot of money or acquire too much gear in case I don’t like it and need to sell it. I live in a small apartment too, so the less stuff the better.
  
  I’m thinking of just buying the Moses 1100 front wing, and a cheap board and maybe an Ozone Wasp 5m.
  
  I know the 91 mast is not the stiffest, but would it be okay for learning? I’m not a good kite foiler, still working on gybes.
  
  Thanks!
  James
  

  
  Hi James,
  
  It will work.  You don't tend to notice the mast flex unless you have ridden it with a stiffer mast first.  You might have some difficulties during gybes etc. but for starting it will be ok.
  
  --
  Gunnar
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• #3 Reply
  Posted by max on 14 Aug, 2020 09:09
• Quote from: gmb13 on 13 Aug, 2020 11:08

  
  Hi James,
  
  It will work.  You don't tend to notice the mast flex unless you have ridden it with a stiffer mast first.  You might have some difficulties during gybes etc. but for starting it will be ok.
  
  --
  Gunnar
  

  
  
  hi Gunnar . . . is the difficulty with gybes related to the 91cm mast being not stiff enough or just that James said that he was still working on gybes?
  
  
  I am in same boat as James . . . though I can gybe and tack on a foil.
  
  I already have the 679, 633 and 720 but only the 91cm mast and was hoping to get away with just adding a bigger wing like the W1100 for winging without the added expense of getting the 82cm mast.
  
  
  
  
  
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• #4 Reply
  Posted by gmb13 on 16 Aug, 2020 19:55
• Quote from: max on 14 Aug, 2020 09:09

  Quote from: gmb13 on 13 Aug, 2020 11:08

  
  Hi James,
  
  It will work.  You don't tend to notice the mast flex unless you have ridden it with a stiffer mast first.  You might have some difficulties during gybes etc. but for starting it will be ok.
  
  --
  Gunnar
  

  
  Hi Max,
  
  The extra Flex makes the foil a bit unstable in manuvers, hence making the gybes etc a bit more tricky.
  
  --
  Gunnar
  
  
  
  
  hi Gunnar . . . is the difficulty with gybes related to the 91cm mast being not stiff enough or just that James said that he was still working on gybes?
  
  
  I am in same boat as James . . . though I can gybe and tack on a foil.
  
  I already have the 679, 633 and 720 but only the 91cm mast and was hoping to get away with just adding a bigger wing like the W1100 for winging without the added expense of getting the 82cm mast.
  
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• #5 Reply
  Posted by Mike dubs on 01 Sep, 2020 18:28
• Gunnar,
  
  I’m using my 790 more for winging now than the 1100 unless it’s super light. What’s the next Moses front wing as a step down from the 790.
  
  Mike
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• #6 Reply
  Posted by gmb13 on 04 Sep, 2020 13:17
• Quote from: Mike dubs on 01 Sep, 2020 18:28

  Gunnar,
  
  I’m using my 790 more for winging now than the 1100 unless it’s super light. What’s the next Moses front wing as a step down from the 790.
  
  Mike
  

  
  Hi Mike.
  
  The next step down would be wither the 633 or 679.  Or alternatively the W1000
  
  --
  Gunnar
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